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Who wants Yasmani Grandal?


A lot of armchair GM’s want Cincinnati Reds to trade away Yasmani Grandal to their teams. Of course they say Yonder Alonso first but then they slip in Yasmani’s name as if to try to pull a fast one on us. I thought we could take a look at this young catcher and see why so many of them really want him so badly.

Yasmani Grandal was drafted by Cincinnati in the 1st round (12th) of the 2010 June Amateur Draft. At 21 years old he played his first season with GCL Reds in the Arizona League. He finished with 8 games played, 28 AB, .286 BA, .394 OBP, and .321 SLG.

In 2011 he played for three teams, A+ Bakersfield Blaze, (California League) AA Carolina Mudcats, (Southern League) and AAA Louisville Bats. (International League) He finished with a total of 105 games, .305 BA, .401 OBP, .500 SLG and .901 OPS with 14 HR, 68 RBIs and 69 runs. With only 4 games played in AAA we can expect him to return next season and I really think he will get a call up to the Reds very soon if he keeps progressing the way he did in 2011. A full season at AAA should give us all a good look at why all of those armchair GM’s drool over his name and it might have them adding a little more than just a #3 starter to trade for him next season. I really hope this kids name does not even come off the lips of the Reds Front Office this offseason unless they are talking about what to buy him for Christmas.

Why Cincinnati Reds should not trade away Yonder Alonso


I did some research today and thought I would share why I think Yonder Alonso should not be traded this offseason. I will show his minor league stats and also compare him to Joey Votto and see what Votto got in the minors also.

First off, Yonder Alonso was drafted by the Reds in the 1st round (7th) in the 2005 Amateur Draft. Joey Votto was drafted in the 2nd round (44th) of the 2002 Amateur Draft. Alonso was rated #35 prospect pre-2009, #45 pre-2010 and #73 pre-2011. Votto was rated #43 pre-2007 and #44 pre-2008.

In four seasons in the Minors Alonso had a .293 BA, .370 OBP, .466 SLG, and .837 OPS with 36 HR, 179 RBIs, 148 BB, 203 SO in 1340 PA.


4 Seasons                             1340 .293 .370 .466 .837
AA (2 seasons)                     AA  242 .282 .380 .432 .812
AAA (2 seasons)                   AAA  854 .296 .364 .478 .842
A+ (2 seasons)                     A+  226 .304 .389 .485 .874
Rk (1 season)                      Rk   18 .133 .278 .133 .411

Provided by Baseball-Reference.com: View Original Table
Generated 11/27/2011.


Joey Votto on the other hand played 7 seasons in the minors and got a .289 BA, .386 OBP, .477 SLG and .862 OPS with 97 HR, 438 RBIs, 404 BB, 665 SO in 3016 PA.


7 Seasons                          3016 .289 .386 .477  .862
A (3 seasons)                    A  715 .280 .397 .425  .822
A+ (3 seasons)                  A+  628 .262 .338 .444  .782
Rk (2 seasons)                  Rk  503 .296 .408 .506  .914
AA (1 season)                   AA  590 .319 .408 .547  .956
AAA (1 season)                 AAA  580 .294 .381 .478  .859

Provided by Baseball-Reference.com: View Original Table
Generated 11/27/2011.


It was said that Yonder Alonso would be training to play LF for the Reds in 2012 which would bring even more value for him later on after he gets one full season. And as we all know, it has already been reported that Joey Votto will not be returning to the Reds after his contract runs out. Keeping Yonder Alonso so then he can play 1B when Votto does leave is the best bet. And it gives the Reds the oppurtunity to shop Votto away at the trade deadline either bringing in young prospects or important pieces to the puzzle to help them get an extra push into the playoffs. I think they would be able to get their top of the rotation starter and then some if they offered someone like Joey Votto.

I heard a rumor at the trade deadline in 2011 that Toronto Blue Jays and Cincinnati Reds were talking about a deal that would involve Joey Votto and Jose Bautista but it never happened because the Blue Jays were asking for more. One thing I am hoping is that scouts and front offices have not hurt Joey Votto’s value by saying, “he is only hitting that good because of Great American Ball Park.” Sure any average player can become a better hitter by playing in that park but that should not bring his value down to the point where teams are wanting a top prospect with him in order to trade their best player. In my mind, the Reds made the right decision by not trading him with another player for Bautista. And this also means they should not trade away Yonder Alonso until they get at least one full season out of him to see what he can do. Many will say that if he does not do well then his value will drop a lot but I would rather take that chance than trade him and watch him become an All-Star in his first season for some other team. (All of our luck a National League team.)

Don’t get me wrong, I would love to see Joey Votto stay with the Reds for the rest of his career but if he has not intention of re-signing I am all for trading him away before he becomes a free agent. At least this way the Reds would have a choice to where he would play or influence him to sign with the team they trade with and I hope that would be in the American League. I really would hate to see him sign in the offseason with a National League Central team.

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