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Will he bat 1st in 2012?


Any Reds fan out there can tell you how disappointed they were to see Drew Stubbs strike out as much as he did in 2011. 205 strikeouts in 2011 put him 3rd overall in single season leaders for strikeouts, Mark Reynolds is 1st, 2nd and 4th. 223 being the highest single season record.

I wanted to look a little more into this and see exactly who struck Drew Stubbs out the most and it is very interesting to see what pitchers had the most fun against him in 2011. Ryan Dempster along with Matt Garza and Shaun Marcum top the list with 5 SO. All three of these pitchers gave Drew Stubbs nothing but problems in 2011. Stubbs only went 3 for 15 against Dempster and 3 for 13 against Garza while really struggling against Marcum by going 1 for 10. There were four pitchers that got 4 strikeouts against Stubbs in 2011. Chris Carpenter, Yovani Gallardo, Jair Jurrjens and Marco Estrada. His batting average against some of these pitchers was not as bad with the top three but he still went down swinging a lot. The next group of pitchers who got three strikeouts against Stubbs also only saw him a few times which really makes it interesting. With some pitchers he only had 4 plate appearances while striking out 3 times. Jason Grilli struck him out 3 times with 3 PA. After writing this, I honestly had to look up Jason Grilli just to see who he was. He played in 28 games for Pittsburgh Pirates getting 2 wins and 1 loss with a 2.48 ERA at 34 years old. He had a total of 37 strike outs in 32.2 innings pitched.

If Drew Stubbs batted 8th or 9th in the order for the Cincinnati Reds I am sure many of us would not have noticed that he was struggling so much but that was not the case for most of the season. He batted 1st and it was painful to watch this poor kid come up to bat every time. It was very clear to me, (as a fan) that he was just not very comfortable while he stood in the batters box. Sometimes it even looked like he was not even at the ball park that day. His mind seemed to be somewhere else many times. Joey Votto is a fun player to watch in the batters box. You can see him thinking about the next pitch and what was just thrown to him, he is always thinking up there. Drew Stubbs and sometimes Jay Bruce need to learn from Votto on that matter.

Like I said before, if he batted lower in the batting order I am sure we would not have noticed as much but he played over 95 games batting 1st getting a .250 BA, .329 OBP, .373 SLG with 131 SO and 44 walks. Once Dusty woke up and realized he was struggling Stubbs then batted 6th for 35 games and 7th for 12 games. What amazes me is that he only played 3 games batting 8th but with guys like Paul Janish in the order that explains it.

Leading off an Inning was very painful to watch when it came to Stubbs. As 1st batter in the game he had a .212 BA, .295 OBP and .282 SLG while getting 27 SO in 85 at bats. Leading off an inning he got .243 BA, .305 OBP and a .341 SLG while getting 63 SO in 214 AB.

Another thing I noticed is that the more times he saw a pitcher the better he got but it was usually to late. vs. SP for the 1st time he went 28 for 128 with 50 SO. 2nd time facing a SP he went 33 for 127 with 38 SO. He went 31 for 110 with 28 SO the 3rd time he faced a starter. And 4+ times facing a starter he went 11 for 31 with 14 SO. And as you can see it took him quite awhile to learn the pitcher and usually the team would bring in a relief pitcher before he did, in which case he went 41 for 199 with 72 SO against a RP the 1st time.

At first I thought maybe it was something to do with Great American Ball Park but he had just as much problem on the road as he did at home. In GABP he went 77 for 287 with 98 SO while going 70 for 317 with 107 SO on the road. Which shows that he had a way better batting average at home and that if he was traded he might not have a job for long on any other team. His speed is great and his fielding is not bad but if he can’t hit at this level he won’t last long on other teams.


Pitchers who struck Drew Stubbs out the most in 2011

                                                 
                    AB H  SO   BA  OBP  SLG   OPS
Ryan Dempster       15 3   5 .200 .200 .467  .667
Matt Garza          13 3   5 .231 .286 .462  .747
Shaun Marcum         9 1   5 .111 .200 .333  .533
Chris Carpenter     14 5   4 .357 .438 .429  .866
Yovani Gallardo      9 3   4 .333 .400 .778 1.178
Jair Jurrjens        7 1   4 .143 .143 .571  .714
Marco Estrada        6 0   4 .000 .000 .000  .000
Zack Greinke         8 5   3 .625 .667 .750 1.417
Jaime Garcia         9 3   3 .333 .400 .444  .844
Jordan Zimmermann    4 0   3 .000 .200 .000  .200
Cliff Lee            7 3   3 .429 .429 .429  .857
Jhoulys Chacin       6 2   3 .333 .333 .333  .667
James McDonald       7 1   3 .143 .250 .286  .536
Hiroki Kuroda        6 1   3 .167 .167 .167  .333
Ivan Nova            4 1   3 .250 .250 .250  .500
Cole Hamels          5 0   3 .000 .000 .000  .000
Josh Johnson         4 0   3 .000 .000 .000  .000
Jason Grilli         3 0   3 .000 .000 .000  .000

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Generated 12/3/2011.


The Reds have given chances to some of their young players over and over again in the past few years. Drew Stubbs and Homer Bailey are the two that really come to mind when I think about this. Stubbs was drafted by the Reds in the 1st round (8th pick) in the 2006 amateur draft and Homer Bailey was drafted by the Reds in the 1st round (7th pick) of the 2004 amateur draft. I have heard so many people praise these two men and some even say that they are the future of the Reds and that really scares me. Don’t get me wrong I wish they both would prove me wrong but I have not seen anything from either one lately to really impress me enough to say they are the Reds future and they have had their chances. I just hope the front office can even get anything of value from another team when they do finally decide to trade them.

34+ year old starting pitchers


Walt Jocketty, General Manager of the Cincinnati Reds said that they are looking for a veteran starting pitcher to help solidify the rotation. With that I have done some searching and found 21 starters older than Bronson Arroyo (34) and will see if any of them become the Reds target. Now I know that “veteran” does not always mean oldest but some of these guys could be who Jocketty is talking about.

Before we start though, I would like to add that a lot of these pitchers are on teams that I seriously doubt would trade them away unless given a lot back in return, along with the fact that the Reds could not afford some of their contracts even if they did get the ok to trade. And as we said before, Jocketty does not plan on doing much with free agents this offseason so that takes even more off the list giving us very slim pickings. Now maybe when he said experienced he really meant older than Johnny Cueto (25) or Edinson Volquez (27)which would bring a whole new crop of prospects to the table but that can be discussed at another time.


First we start with the oldest, Tim Wakefield. At 44 years old it has been said he will return and keep pitching. In 2011 he started in 23 games and recorded 154.2 innings pitched. He finished with a 7 – 8 record for Boston Red Sox. Wakefield has 463 career games started with 200 career wins, the most amongst active pitchers.

Miguel Batista only had 5 games started at age 40 but finished with a 5 – 2 record in 2011.

Bartolo Colon at 38 years old started in 28 games for New York Yankees and finished with a 8 – 10 record.

Derek Lowe also at 38 years old pitched in 34 starts and had a 9 – 17 record for Atlanta Braves.

Nelson Figueroa started in only 5 games for Houston Astros and finished with a 0 – 3 record.

Kevin Millwood pitched in 9 starts and had a 4 – 3 record at age 36.

Hiroki Kuroda had 32 starts for the Dodgers with 202 innings pitched and getting a 13 – 16 record at age 36.

Chris Carpenter also at 36 got the most innings pitched out of this list with 237.1 and 34 starts to get him a 11 – 9 record.

R. A. Dickey, another 36-year-old started 32 times for the Mets and got a 8 – 13 record.

Livian Hernandez is another 36-year-old who got 29 starts for Washington Nationals finishing the season with 8 wins and 13 losses. Livian has the record for most games started for active pitchers at 474.

Tim Hudson at 35 started in 33 games and recorded a 16 – 10 record.

Rodrigo Lopez, 35 years old got 16 starts with a 6 – 6 record for the Cubs.

Doug Davis at 35 and on the Cubs got a 1 – 7 record with only 9 starts.

Ted Lilly got 33 starts at age 35 and finished the season off with a 12 – 14 record.

Carl Pavano started 33 games for the Twins and saw a 9 – 13 record.

Freddy Garcia at 34 saw a pretty good season for the Yankees with a 12 – 8 record over 25 starts.

A. J. Burnett, another 34-year-old and on the Yankees got a 11 – 11 record out of 32 starts.

Bruce Chen with the Royals started 25 games with a 12 – 8 record at age 34.

Roy Halladay at 34, got 32 games started and ended the season with a 19 – 6 record.

Ryan Dempster, 34 years old got 34 starts for the Cubs in 2011 with 10 wins 14 losses.

Javier Vazquez ends this list with 32 starts and a 13 – 11 record for the Marlins at 34 years old.


                    Year   Age Tm Lg GS  W  L    IP  SO  ERA HR
Tim Wakefield       2011   44 BOS AL 23  7  8 154.2  93 5.12 25
Miguel Batista      2011   40 TOT NL  5  5  2  60.0  31 3.60  2
Bartolo Colon       2011   38 NYY AL 26  8 10 164.1 135 4.00 21
Derek Lowe          2011   38 ATL NL 34  9 17 187.0 137 5.05 14
Nelson Figueroa     2011   37 HOU NL  5  0  3  29.0  17 8.69  3
Kevin Millwood      2011   36 COL NL  9  4  3  54.1  36 3.98  9
Hiroki Kuroda       2011   36 LAD NL 32 13 16 202.0 161 3.07 24
Chris Carpenter     2011   36 STL NL 34 11  9 237.1 191 3.45 16
R.A. Dickey         2011   36 NYM NL 32  8 13 208.2 134 3.28 18
Livan Hernandez     2011   36 WSN NL 29  8 13 175.1  99 4.47 16
Tim Hudson          2011   35 ATL NL 33 16 10 215.0 158 3.22 14
Rodrigo Lopez       2011   35 CHC NL 16  6  6  97.2  54 4.42 18
Doug Davis          2011   35 CHC NL  9  1  7  45.2  36 6.50  2
Ted Lilly           2011   35 LAD NL 33 12 14 192.2 158 3.97 28
Carl Pavano         2011   35 MIN AL 33  9 13 222.0 102 4.30 23
Freddy Garcia       2011   34 NYY AL 25 12  8 146.2  96 3.62 16
A.J. Burnett        2011   34 NYY AL 32 11 11 190.1 173 5.15 31
Bruce Chen          2011   34 KCR AL 25 12  8 155.0  97 3.77 18
Roy Halladay        2011   34 PHI NL 32 19  6 233.2 220 2.35 10
Ryan Dempster       2011   34 CHC NL 34 10 14 202.1 191 4.80 23
Javier Vazquez      2011   34 FLA NL 32 13 11 192.2 162 3.69 21

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Generated 11/21/2011.

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