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Why Cincinnati Reds should not trade away Yonder Alonso


I did some research today and thought I would share why I think Yonder Alonso should not be traded this offseason. I will show his minor league stats and also compare him to Joey Votto and see what Votto got in the minors also.

First off, Yonder Alonso was drafted by the Reds in the 1st round (7th) in the 2005 Amateur Draft. Joey Votto was drafted in the 2nd round (44th) of the 2002 Amateur Draft. Alonso was rated #35 prospect pre-2009, #45 pre-2010 and #73 pre-2011. Votto was rated #43 pre-2007 and #44 pre-2008.

In four seasons in the Minors Alonso had a .293 BA, .370 OBP, .466 SLG, and .837 OPS with 36 HR, 179 RBIs, 148 BB, 203 SO in 1340 PA.


4 Seasons                             1340 .293 .370 .466 .837
AA (2 seasons)                     AA  242 .282 .380 .432 .812
AAA (2 seasons)                   AAA  854 .296 .364 .478 .842
A+ (2 seasons)                     A+  226 .304 .389 .485 .874
Rk (1 season)                      Rk   18 .133 .278 .133 .411

Provided by Baseball-Reference.com: View Original Table
Generated 11/27/2011.


Joey Votto on the other hand played 7 seasons in the minors and got a .289 BA, .386 OBP, .477 SLG and .862 OPS with 97 HR, 438 RBIs, 404 BB, 665 SO in 3016 PA.


7 Seasons                          3016 .289 .386 .477  .862
A (3 seasons)                    A  715 .280 .397 .425  .822
A+ (3 seasons)                  A+  628 .262 .338 .444  .782
Rk (2 seasons)                  Rk  503 .296 .408 .506  .914
AA (1 season)                   AA  590 .319 .408 .547  .956
AAA (1 season)                 AAA  580 .294 .381 .478  .859

Provided by Baseball-Reference.com: View Original Table
Generated 11/27/2011.


It was said that Yonder Alonso would be training to play LF for the Reds in 2012 which would bring even more value for him later on after he gets one full season. And as we all know, it has already been reported that Joey Votto will not be returning to the Reds after his contract runs out. Keeping Yonder Alonso so then he can play 1B when Votto does leave is the best bet. And it gives the Reds the oppurtunity to shop Votto away at the trade deadline either bringing in young prospects or important pieces to the puzzle to help them get an extra push into the playoffs. I think they would be able to get their top of the rotation starter and then some if they offered someone like Joey Votto.

I heard a rumor at the trade deadline in 2011 that Toronto Blue Jays and Cincinnati Reds were talking about a deal that would involve Joey Votto and Jose Bautista but it never happened because the Blue Jays were asking for more. One thing I am hoping is that scouts and front offices have not hurt Joey Votto’s value by saying, “he is only hitting that good because of Great American Ball Park.” Sure any average player can become a better hitter by playing in that park but that should not bring his value down to the point where teams are wanting a top prospect with him in order to trade their best player. In my mind, the Reds made the right decision by not trading him with another player for Bautista. And this also means they should not trade away Yonder Alonso until they get at least one full season out of him to see what he can do. Many will say that if he does not do well then his value will drop a lot but I would rather take that chance than trade him and watch him become an All-Star in his first season for some other team. (All of our luck a National League team.)

Don’t get me wrong, I would love to see Joey Votto stay with the Reds for the rest of his career but if he has not intention of re-signing I am all for trading him away before he becomes a free agent. At least this way the Reds would have a choice to where he would play or influence him to sign with the team they trade with and I hope that would be in the American League. I really would hate to see him sign in the offseason with a National League Central team.

More rumors to think about


Ryan Hanigan has become the next victim to be brought up in trade rumors for the Cincinnati Reds. It has been reported that Los Angeles Angels are interested in the Reds catcher. I can not see the Reds trading Hanigan away but if they were offered a good deal they might. Some people are suggesting they trade him then re-sign Ramon Hernandez.

Hanigan was signed by the Reds as an amateur free agent in 2002. At 21 years old he started off with the Dayton Dragons in the Midwest League. .273 BA, .333 OBP and a .364 SLG in 6 games. 2003 he played for Dayton again playing in 92 games and getting a .277 BA. He also played one game in AAA for Louisville Bats (International League) that season going 1 for 3. He then played for Potomac Cannons in 2004 getting a .296 BA in 119 games. In 2005 he played for the Chattanooga Lookouts in the Southern League getting a .321 BA in 100 games. He returned to Chattanooga in 2006 playing in 56 games and finishing with a .246 BA. He also played 8 games for Louisville going 2 for 13.

Ryan Hanigan made his major league debut on Sunday, September 9, 2007, at Great American Ball Park. It was the bottom of the 5th inning and the Reds were behind 7 runs when he pinch hit for Kirk Saarloos batting 9th against Ben Sheets. He hit the first pitch he saw for a ground ball double to left field. Norris Hopper then hit a line drive to right field getting Hanigan to 3rd. Jeff Keppinger then hit a weak popfly to SS and Ben Sheets threw a wild pitch to Ken Griffey scoring Hanigan. The Milwaukee Brewers went on to win that game 10 – 5 with Ben Sheets getting the win (12 – 4) and Phil Dumatrait getting the loss. (0 – 4)

Hanigan played 5 games for the Reds in 2007 getting a .300 batting average. He also played 60 games for Chattanooga getting a .299 BA and for Louisville playing in 41 games and getting a .252 BA.

In 2008 he played 75 games for Louisville and got a .324 BA. He also played 31 games for the Reds that season getting a .271 BA. He also has 15 stolen bases against him while throwing out 8, getting 35 CS%.

2009 he came in 2nd with 42.9 Caught Stealing % and 1st for Fielding % as a catcher with .998. With 90 games played he got a .263 BA with 37 walks and 31 strike outs. He also played 5 games in AAA for Louisville going 7 for 18.

In 2010 he played in 13 games for Louisville and went 11 for 46. He also played 70 games for the Reds and went 61 for 203. (.300 BA) He caught 13 and allowed 28 stolen bases.

He had 18 CS and 34 SB as a catcher for the Reds in 2011. Playing in 91 games and going 71 for 266. (.267 BA) getting 35 walks and 32 strike outs.

If he doesn’t get traded this should be his first year as the main catcher for the Reds. With Devin Mesoraco and Yasmani Grandal waiting to get some playing time also. Like I said before, I really can’t see him being traded this offseason but if the Reds get a very good offer they might pull the trigger then have to re-sign Ramon Hernandez or another catcher that will come play for a lower salary. I would love to see Corky Miller get the call up this season but I doubt that will happen.

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